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Thanks guys. Yeah I'll check out the Times Comedy Capers soon, gotta give ToCA3 a tryout first (later today). Oh and it'll have to be "cuppa tea" for me since I'm into my 13th year of sobriety.

Wasn't too hard if you just sit down and say you're not leaving till they're done. And between when I first tried them and now I've gotten way more familiar with the tracks involved. Only Rally was still not high in my experience, hence my S10 difficulties. But even that fell with relative ease (just an hour or so) once I was determined to beat it.

I just finished all licenses in gold. An Ice cold beer for all of you

And a cup of tea for bobkart .

Congratulations Tommy!

Welcome aboard!

Thanks guys, it was the IA16 license I had to finish last to get all 80 golds.
The one before that was the Chamonix S-license, took me about an hour..Now i really hate snow / ice driving.

GT4 PAL version

my first time for 80 GOLDS for all the license, just happened last night
...........the link below for some of my memorable screenshots....


http://www.gtplayground.com/GTmessage.c ... mType=Logs


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cool. looks like i've spotted a gt anachronism. there's no way the model t ford was available in "black japan enamel". those were much less pretentious times. i'm willing to bet my sack that the color was just "black".

Max, 1914 was the year that Ford changed to "all black" Model Ts, in the US. The reason is this:

"And on page 11 of "The History of Ford in Australia" Norm Darwin shares, "When production climbed to a level that caused a bottleneck in the paint shop, Henry Ford switched to Black Japan Varnish, a fast drying paint. Production in Canada did not however reach the same output levels, thus a slower drying paint could be used, from 1911 a dark Blue was used. Australia, we will see, never had 'Black only' Model T's.""

The year this happened was 1914, so GT4's 1915 version had to be black, as well. So, PD almost got it right. It was a varnish, not an enamel. Earlier versions of dark colours, such as for the 1913 models, were a green and a blue. The blue was called "Midnight Blue" and both were so dark that they could almost be mistaken for black.

When shall I expect your sack in the mail? On second thought, keep it. One is more trouble than I need.

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"An enamel paint is a paint that dries to an especially hard, usually glossy, finish." Wikipedia

"Varnish is a finish applied to wood or other surfaces in order to provide a clear, hard, durable, protective finish. Varnish is usually a combination of a drying oil, a resin and a thinner or solvent. Varnish finishes are often, although not always, glossy. As opposed to paint, which contains pigment, and is opaque, varnish has little or no color, and is transparent." Wikipedia

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Cheers,

MasterGT

very interesting stuff bro. i love stuff like that. i guess my question was slightly misconstrued. i don't doubt that that used the japanese enamel which dried faster. that sounds like good business sense. what i'm saying is that in the brochure to the customer, the color is listed as "black" only. not "japan enamel blabla". in those olden times, colors didn't have adjectives. what i bet my sack on was that the color of the car was advertised to the customer as merely "black".

the pretentious age where "red" became "cranberry" and "yellow" became "sunburst" began decades after the emergence of ford as a car industry giant.

I might agree with your presumption, but it may not apply to this particular colour. The reason is because "japan" or "japaning" refers to a type of process used with lacquers. (European furniture was sent to Japan or China to have the lacquers applied using their techniques and experience, until they learned how to do it themselves, cheaper.) Pigments were added to the liquid to give it a colour and, maybe, just maybe, Ford would have used the term as well.

There is an auction site which has old car brouchers.
I'll see if I can find one for the Model T.

Cheers,

MasterGT

http://www.hfmgv.org/exhibits/showroom/ ... del.t.html

Here is a 1915 Model T broucher. As far as I can see, it doesn't even list colour!

http://www.mtfca.com/books/15Cat.htm

Yes, I noticed that was mentioned in the 1915 broucher.
That represents almost 1% of the retail price of the whole car, too.

Cheers,

MasterGT

I really love this site, for having lots of people willing to share their stuff to clear things out.

Anyway, just a reminder, that this thread is going out further from its title.

I have got all 80 gold medles.

congratz man